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GCPF chair Claudia Arce: “Climate change matters, also on a business level!”

GCPF chair Claudia Arce: “Climate change matters, also on a business level!”

At a conference held by Swiss Sustainable Finance in Zurich on 16 January, which brought together 240 participants from 12 countries who exchanged their views about innovative partnerships for development investments, Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Global Climate Partnership Fund, talked about her experiences with public-private partnerships.

„You need a translator between public and private investors because, many times, they speak a different language.“

Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Board of the Global Climate Partnership Fund (GCPF)

YOU TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AT A PANEL TODAY: WHAT WERE YOUR THREE MAIN MESSAGES?

One: You need a translator between public and private investors because, many times, they speak a different language. Development Finance Institutions can help to bridge this communication gap.

Two: You need to balance risks. Both sides have very different notions of risks. It is crucial to balance this in a good way, to keep both sides on board of your instruments.

Three: You need to have both sides’ commitment to long-term partnerships. This is a bit more challenging with the private sector which tends to look for liquidity and return of investments rather than long-term impact.

„The mindset within the private sector has clearly developed over the last years.“

Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Board of the Global Climate Partnership Fund (GCPF)

HOW DO YOU CONVINCE PRIVATE INVESTORS THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM IMPACTFUL INVESTMENTS?

You need to demonstrate that the long-term impact matters for their business models and that their businesses can, in fact, benefit. Often, they don’t understand the markets and, given complex regulatory frameworks, they are not even allowed to invest into risky topics. Public investors such as development finance institutions (DFIs) could play an important role in explaining and helping assess risks for investments in emerging and infant markets. 

YOU TALK ABOUT EDUCATING THE PRIVATE SECTOR – HAVE YOU SEEN SOME PROGRESS IN THE FIELD?

Absolutely. The mindset has clearly developed over the last years. Five to ten years ago, if big private investors were investing in this type of impact investment, it was usually for marketing campaigns and brochures or to fulfill their CSR targets. This is changing. Take climate change, for instance. Many companies understand that climate change matters for their own business model, so investing in such instruments helps them to better understand the risks, which might affect them in their core businesses. We are currently witnessing a paradigm shift. These days, you hear a lot of private investors talk about impact investing, not for marketing purposes, but from the business model side. This change in mindset enables long-term partnerships with private investors.

YOU ARE CHAIRING GCPF, WHICH IS SET UP AS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. HOW IS RISK SHARED BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTORS COOPERATE IN THIS CASE?

In this specific model the total risk lies with the (public) C-class shares, but we have also seen private investors, such as for instance ASN Bank, that is changing its whole internal set-up towards climate change and climate risk. As a result, this investment fits very much in their profile. They were also willing to slightly lower their return expectations, because they feel it’s a good and long-term investment. At the same time, we still get investors who purely look at financial indicators.

„You need to design investment instruments in a way that you can demonstrate a win-win situation for both sides.“

Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Board of the Global Climate Partnership Fund (GCPF)

ARE THE GOVERNMENT’S EXPECTATIONS REGARDING THE INVESTMENT BEING MET?

I think they are happy with the investment as such and with the type of impact they are generating. At the same time, they would have hoped that with the amount of first loss shares they put in, the inflow of private money would be more substantial and quicker. As long as the private sector doesn’t see an investment as part of their core business, this will always restrict their appetite to invest.

WHAT TIME FRAME DO YOU NEED TO ALLOW BEFORE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BECOMES COMMERCIALLY SUSTAINABLE, POTENTIALLY MAKING PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT UNNECESSARY?

My experience is that it takes longer than one tends to think for the market to obtain enough confidence and credit history to attract private investments. I would say that, depending on the market, geography and type of investments, you need to allow between 5 to 8 years before you will get enough market confidence to attract private capital. 

„My experience is that it takes long for the market to obtain enough confidence to attract private capital.“

Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Board of the Global Climate Partnership Fund (GCPF)

SO IT’S REALLY ABOUT BUILDING A MARKET AMONG INVESTORS FOR THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT. IS KFW PLANNING TO EXPAND THIS APPROACH IN THE FUTURE?

Our role is to invest where the private sector is not working. It’s always difficult to find timing to say the market is now senior enough for us to exit. One thing we have learned, however, is that we should plan exits from the very beginning. And we should also keep the subsidy element of first-loss shares at a level where we can use it flexibly, so it isn’t fixed for the whole period. This will allow us to adapt subsidies depending on how markets develop.

GCPF IS ABOUT TO ACHIEVE A NET ASSET VALUE OF USD 500 M. WHY IS THIS A MILESTONE?

USD 500 m is an amount investors take seriously. You need volumes if you want to give investors confidence and set standards. The fund has now become a trademark in the market. For KfW, our main priority in future is to have large funds growing, even opening them up for different investments, rather than starting too many tiny funds.

Swiss Sustainable Finance, 16 January, 2018, Zurich

WHAT ARE THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THE GCPF?

It’s easy, really: the ultimate target is to avoid greenhouse gas generation. Therefore, the objective is to continue to grow, to improve quality and flexibility and to balance investments and financing activities. In order to achieve this, we are starting to bring in new types of investments to increase the outreach of the fund. For instance, we are increasing the share of direct investments in the portfolio.

„It‘s easy, really: the ultimate target is to avoid greenhouse gas generation. Therefore, the fund needs to grow further.“

Claudia Arce, Chairperson of the Board of the Global Climate Partnership Fund (GCPF)

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